The DoD on DADT

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Reading past posts, you see a pattern of freedom for all in my posts. Critical thinking and a live and let live attitude, tempered with personal responsibility. Fairness. Now continuing on this same path.

Yesterday the Department of Defense(DoD) released their report on the effects of lifting Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell(DADT). It can be read here.
The Pentagon asked 1,416,741 Active Duty members, 831,193 Reserve Duty, which totals up to 2,247,934 combined, with 75% having been deployed. Not only that they asked 703,586 Active Duty Spouses and 370,250 Reserve Duty spouses. That’s another 1,073,836. Combine them all up you have the opinions of 3,321,772 people. This isn’t a half-ass poll for some news organization.
It found that around 66% of those surveyed were neutral on repealing DADT. It wouldn’t affect them one way or the other. I said as much in a previous Ronin’s Journey post, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. It wouldn’t matter as long as they professionally done their duties. And that’s required of everyone. In conversations with former and current military members, they told me that sexual orientation didn’t matter to them either. The only group that it really mattered to was the Chaplains, but most religions are opposed to homosexuality, so we knew that was coming.
The politicians were flipping and flopping, bobbing and weaving when pressed on this issue. Saying things like, “it hurts morale”, “no one will reenlist”, “I want to wait on the Pentagon report”. Well you have it now, and it says all your excuses are worthless, it doesn’t hurt morale or prevent soldiers from reenlisting. It even says how to implement the repeal. The time for talk and excuse making is over. Now it’s time for action, because it’s not the soldiers who have a problem with gays serving, it’s the politicians. And now they’re boxed in a corner. In chess this is called a checkmate. Freedom and Equality wins, unless they kick over the board.


5 thoughts on “The DoD on DADT

  1. I definitely would not use the survey sent out/report created from it as the end-all to the response from the military on repealing DADT.

    You need to cite where you received your numbers on the study as well. The work group only sent out 400,000 surveys to active/reserve component members, with that, the survey results they received back from both military members and their spouses total approximately 225,000.

    From page 63 of their final report, available at

    “The Service members’ survey was one of the largest surveys in the history of the
    military, with 115,052 responses. In addition, we received 44,266 responses to the spouse
    survey. The results of these surveys constitute a significant component of our assessment.”

    That means of the 400,000 they sent out, less than half were received back. Not good for results especially considering that last sentence.

    As a combat Marine, I do not have a problem with gays in the military. However, they should be held to the same standards the rest of us are. Which means strict rules on fraternization. No relationships within your unit. I could make a post a 20 pages long giving all the issues that could arise from repealing this if they do not think it out well in advance. If they just repeal it to show how accepting they are without making the necessary adjustments to the UCMJ, it will be a chaotic implosion of good order and discipline(they do mention that changes are needed starting at page 133 of the above final report in the “Standards of Conduct” section.


  2. I got my numbers from page 18 on the report, and I also believe that gays should be held to the same standards. No preferential treatment, same high standards as everyone else. What I want to see is people being discharged due to orientation. Make it fair. Not based on just gay or straight.


  3. At the bottom of page 18 of the document you were reading( ) it affirms that the sample size is approximately 400,000 military members and approximately 140,000 spouses of military members. Then they used that sampling to blanket the results from respondents across the entire military. With that, again, of that 400,000 sampling of military service members, less than half actually responded to the survey.


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